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Paint Cracks When Drying카테고리 없음 2020. 2. 11. 05:30
Word of advice - don't! I wouldnt even use it on bare wood because it gives a poor finish anyway, but using it on pre-painted surfaces will result in a nightmare scenario of attempting to remove it,as I recently discovered. I bought the stuff because my wife hates the smell of regular gloss paint,because brushes are easy to clean and because it dries quickly as the tin claims.Trouble is it does not adhere to pre-painted surfaces, although I suspect there are primers one can use beforehand.Even then i still would not use it. Its been harsh lesson for me because i had to burn the paint off using a hot air blower then repeated use of a palm sander to smooth all the architraves and skirting.Then i lay each door ( 8 all told) on trestles in the garden and ran a belt sander on each before sending them to be dip stripped.Bloke who collected them told me he spends his life telling people not use that. paint( dipping doesnt remove it either) I have new mission ilfe warning people not to use the.ing paint unless the wood is bare and even then dont use because you will see all the brush marks.
Word of advice - don't! I wouldnt even use it on bare wood because it gives a poor finish anyway, but using it on pre-painted surfaces will result in a nightmare scenario of attempting to remove it,as I recently discovered. I bought the stuff because my wife hates the smell of regular gloss paint,because brushes are easy to clean and because it dries quickly as the tin claims.Trouble is it does not adhere to pre-painted surfaces, although I suspect there are primers one can use beforehand.Even then i still would not use it. Its been harsh lesson for me because i had to burn the paint off using a hot air blower then repeated use of a palm sander to smooth all the architraves and skirting.Then i lay each door ( 8 all told) on trestles in the garden and ran a belt sander on each before sending them to be dip stripped.Bloke who collected them told me he spends his life telling people not use that. paint( dipping doesnt remove it either) I have new mission ilfe warning people not to use the.ing paint unless the wood is bare and even then dont use because you will see all the brush marks.
I hate the smell of gloss paint too, but as you say if you want a decent finish you have to put up with the smell: I did some woodwork using the water based gloss a few years ago but it looks almost matt and hasn't worn well, so I'm progressively redoing each room as I come to it. Lucky that I replaced all the doors with Oak ones, so I finished them with Danish Oil/ clear wax and the smell of the oil seems to go much quicker than that of the oil based paint. FWIW my Stepdad is a retired decorator and he told me at the time not to use the water based 'rubbish'. I had a nightmare the first and only time I tried to use water based gloss. We have a conservatory and it was originally done with exposed brick and mahagony effect window sills (pine with a mahogany coloured varnish). We wanted to modern it up so we got the walls skimmed and I replaced the skirting board having removed the old mahogany coloured stuff for the plasterer.
Rubbed down the sills and filled in the cracks. Applied some undercoat so I had a nice smooth surface for the top coat. Applied it and it orange peeled. Thought I had a dodgy tin, got it replaced, rubbed it down as best I could, applied another coatd and it orange peeled. In the end, rubbed it down as best I could, and applied oil based gloss. That went on okay but the finish is rubbisg because I couldn't fully get rid of the pock-marked surface underneath. The gloss yellowed within a few months.
Cheers, Nigel. So just in case I have mis-read - can I recap: Quick dry gloss - crap. Water based gloss - crap. Oil based gloss - crap. Non-drip gloss - crap. So has gloss paint had some sort of EU tinkering?
Thus being more environmentally friendly but pointless and crap? I have to say in the past I found non-drip gloss dripped.
Paint Cracks After Drying
Quick drying took ages to dry (but maybe there is adifference in times when compared to non-quicj dry) and think I have only ever used the oil based stuff. May I ask people on here - out of curiosity rather than judging or slagging - when you want to paint all your wood with gloss white paint?
If it is already natural wood why not keep it like that. If you have stripped it back then keep it like that and apply a different finish? I am going through my house (well one room so far) and I plan on taking the wood back to a natural wood finish before applying a wax finish. It is hard going and maybe because I stay in an old house I get awy with the wood having an aged look about it. Click to expand.Oil based gloss has never let me down in terms of application and finish. The downsides are the stink fumes and cleaning the brushes.
I get round the brushes thing by just using the cheapo 10 for £3.99 and throwing the brush away when I have finished the coat. The cost of white spirit needed to wash the brush properly is more expensive than all but the best brushes. The smell is a pain - the fumes more - try to keep ventilated because it will give you headaches. It does yellow, but to be honest I think it always has, but perhaps we haven't noticed it so much before. If I have some nicely finished wood then I prefer to use liquid gloss - gives the best results. Oil paints also give the toughest more resilient finishes. Cheers, Nigel.
Click to expand.It was when I did my kitchen which was in 2010, so could have been old stock, I think I did it in the summer of 2010. I still have the tin as I didn't use it all and planned to repaint the (water based) painted sill in the living room which looks grubby. FWIW I don't use brushes (apart from a small one for cutting in) I use a foam roller for my windowsills, etc as I find it gives a really good finish. I did these understairs cupboard doors with a light grey Wickes gloss around the same time as the kitchen job. I made them out of MDF so a very smooth surface. Being light grey rather than white they don't seem to have suffered with yellowing: Painted in August 2010 approx and photographed last month for my DIY thread.
Not long ago we decorated our living room, installed new mdf skirting, used crown non drop satin water based, applied by brush was a nightmare, was about to give up but tried with a Harrison small gloss roller, result, have some nice bright white skirtings, also painted over dulux oil based satin on the window without any probs, wouldn't think gloss would look as good as its a little orange peely up close but as it's satin you don't notice. Would never go back to gloss, shows up every imperfection. Oil based gloss has never let me down in terms of application and finish. The downsides are the stink fumes and cleaning the brushes.
I get round the brushes thing by just using the cheapo 10 for £3.99 and throwing the brush away when I have finished the coat. The cost of white spirit needed to wash the brush properly is more expensive than all but the best brushes.
The smell is a pain - the fumes more - try to keep ventilated because it will give you headaches. It does yellow, but to be honest I think it always has, but perhaps we haven't noticed it so much before. If I have some nicely finished wood then I prefer to use liquid gloss - gives the best results. Oil paints also give the toughest more resilient finishes. Cheers, Nigel. Click to expand.Nig I do the same thing with brushes buy pack of 5 or 6 for about £5,99 from B&Q & when in between coats wrap in cling film to keep moisture.
Then throw away after 2nd coat. Oil based gloss is what I have bought but are people saying it goes yellow really quickly. It probably always has we are just becoming more anal about these things as we get older. It reminds me of father ted and Dougal talking about priest black uniforms not being very, very, very, very, very, very, very black. With all paint jobs, only as good as the preparation.
Wash down with sugar soap and scotch pad, rinse and sand. I only use Dulux water-based primer/undercoat followed by Dulux water-based top coat. Water-based Dulux has come on leaps and bounds. Never use it on a hot day, it skins too quickly. Don't over work it.
Paint Cracks While Drying
Use a roller for large areas, especially panel doors. Never buy cheap brushes. Nor very expensive ones either! One day, it will be the only paint you will be able to buy! Nobody objects to buying cars painted with water-based paint!